Ben Starr

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Perfect Thanksgiving Turkey (brined)

For this recipe, you will need three 10-pound bags of ice, 1 gallon of apple cider vinegar, 1-2 boxes of Morton’s Course Kosher Salt (see the recipe below for different types of salt), white sugar, canola oil, aluminum foil, a cooler, a roasting pan, a meat thermometer, and, of course, a turkey.  Do not brine a turkey that is labeled as “self basting” or “deep marinated” or “kosher.”  These turkeys have already been brined.  “Enhanced with a broth of sodium phosphate…” etc is okay to brine.  Your brine will actually suck that brine out and replace it with yours!

There has been a Renaissance recently in the knowledge about cooking turkey.  In theory, Americans have been eating turkey on Thanksgiving for hundreds of years, but to be honest, it’s not a very delicious bird when cooked via the traditional method: a long, slow roast with continuous basting.  Basically all that does is overcook the meat until it’s dry and tough, and soak the skin over and over until it may LOOK golden and delicious, but in reality is soggy.

Brining is the ultimate way to cook meat, ensuring succulent, juicy meats that are tender and flavorful.  And you can pair it with ANY of the recently-popular cooking methods, whether that’s a high-temperature quick roast, a deep fry, or a smoke.

A brine is a liquid that has been salted to an exact ratio that allows the liquid to penetrate the walls of the meat cells, carrying the flavor and salt into the cell. The salt dissolves strands of protein and causes them to fall into something like jelly, which traps that liquid inside the cell. When the meat is cooked, more liquid stays inside, which means moist, flavorful meat. Brilliant! It’s like marinating on steroids, because the flavor actually goes into each individual meat cell, all the way through the meat.

Brining isn’t easy, but it’s worth it.  There’s a lot of bad information floating around the internet about brining.  Some people say that a brined turkey is more likely to kill you of salmonella.  (For starters, salmonella is a MILD disease, most people don’t even realize they have it, and it’s only dangerous in people with compromised immune systems…people who would be equally threatened by a common cold.)  Some people say you have to bring in your refrigerator.  (Totally not necessary, and practically impossible on Thanksgiving when refrigerator real estate is in high demand!)  Some people say you need to boil your brine first to incorporate all sorts of extraneous flavors like garlic and rosemary and bay.  (But then you have to wait for the brine to fully cool before you immerse the turkey in it!  While these other flavors may come through a bit, it’s actually overkill in my opinion.  But you can still add things like garlic and onion powder to the brine without having to cook the brine.)

So let me re-invent this whole brining process for you, the easy way!

FIRST – Thaw your turkey.  I’ve experimented with different ways of actually thawing the turkey IN the brine, but it doesn’t work unless your turkey is at least MOSTLY thawed.  But there’s a quick way to thaw a turkey.  First, thoroughly clean your sink (or the cooler you will later use to brine the turkey) and sterilize it by filling it completely with hot water and adding a cup of bleach.  Let it sit for 5 minutes, then flush and rinse.  Place your naked, unwrapped turkey in the sink, breast side down, fill the sink with cold water, and place a 10-pound bag of ice on top of the turkey to keep it submerged.

The USDA says it will take 30 minutes of thawing per pound to thaw a turkey this way, but they recommend keeping the turkey wrapped.  Removing the wrapping allows the water to directly contact all surfaces of the turkey, which speeds this process considerably.  Also, if you’ll leave the water on at a trickle, the movement of the water around the turkey will also speed the thaw.  The bag of ice will help keep the water cold and keep bacteria from flourishing inside the turkey.

(The USDA wants you to keep the turkey wrapped because they are afraid the water may carry bacteria into your turkey.  In my uneducated opinion, the FASTER you thaw the turkey, the better, and if you cook the turkey to the proper safe temperature, any bacteria in the turkey will be killed anyway.  Duh!)

A 12-pound hard-frozen turkey will generally thaw in 3-4 hours this way.  Once the turkey is thawed, remove any “extras” from the cavities on either end of the turkey.  The neck is generally placed in the large cavity, between the breasts.  Sometimes a bag of “giblets” or organs is hidden in the opposite cavity.  If you can’t get these out because they are still frozen to the turkey, run lukewarm water into the cavity for a minute or two to get them unfrozen.  You CAN brine the turkey even if these things are still frozen into the cavities, provided the meat on the turkey is pretty soft and mostly thawed.  DO NOT REMOVE any plastic thermometers that were placed into the turkey by the manufacturer.  DO remove any metal trussing clips, as these will corrode in the brine.  Squeeze them out (it’s a little hard) or cut them in half with pliers and work them out.  Plastic trussing is fine to leave on.

Once your turkey comes out of the thawing water, it needs to go into the brine VERY QUICKLY.

SECOND – Brine your turkey.  Start with a STERILIZED cooler, hopefully one that will accommodate the turkey fairly snugly so you don’t have to make a bunch of extra brine.  To sterilize the cooler, fill it with hot water to the brim, and add a cup of bleach.  Let it sit for 5 minutes, then rinse it out.  Do this AGAIN if you thawed the turkey in the cooler and sterilized it before the thaw.

Place your turkey into the empty cooler.  Add:

1 gallon of apple cider vinegar

Then add cool water, 1 gallon at a time, until the turkey just begins to float, keeping track of how many gallons of water you add.  You want to add whole gallons of water.  With the final gallon, it’s perfectly fine to stop about a quart short of the whole gallon…I’ll explain why later.

Remove the turkey from the cooler.  Then add salt and sugar in the following ratio PER GALLON of water:

1 1/2 cups Morton’s Kosher Salt (or 3/4 cup NON-iodized table salt, or 2 cups of Diamond Crystal Kosher Salt)

1/4 cup white sugar

Add that much for EACH gallon of brine you made.  Then add ONE more set of salt and sugar, which will count for the 10-pound bag of ice you’re about to add.  So if you added 1 gallon of apple cider vinegar and 2 gallons of water to get the turkey to float, you will add 4 units of the above ratio…(ie 6 cups of Morton’s Kosher Salt and 1 cup of sugar).  P.S. The apple cider vinegar reeks, and you’ll be nervous that your turkey will taste like it, but it won’t…it’ll be delicious.

Get the biggest whisk you have, or a couple of wooden spoons, and stir the heck out of the brine.  It will turn cloudy and you won’t be able to see if there is still undissolved salt in the bottom, but if you’ll stir VIGOROUSLY for 2-3 minutes, most of it will get dissolved.  Then open another 10-pound bag of ice and empty it into the brine.  Then stir it around again vigorously.  Place the turkey into the brine, breast side down, and place an UNOPENED 10-pound bag of ice on top of the turkey to keep it submerged in the brine.

Place the lid on the cooler.  If it won’t go, place a folded blanket on top of the bag of ice to insulate it.  Leave the cooler in the coldest part of your house for the brining duration, which is 1 hour per pound of turkey.

THIRD – Roast the turkey!  About 20 minutes before the bird comes out of the brine, place your oven rack onto the lowest 1 or 2 positions, so the turkey will fit into the oven without scraping the top.  Then preheat the oven to 500 degrees.  (That’s NOT a misprint.)  Choose your roasting pan.  If you don’t have one large enough to fit the turkey, get one of those disposable aluminum ones at the grocery store, but make certain you place it on a baking sheet to support the bottom, as those are never strong enough to hold a turkey.  You do not need a roasting rack if you don’t have one, all it does is give you eatable meat on the bottom of the turkey, which isn’t meat you really eat anyway.  If you roast the turkey directly in a pan, it will overcook on the bottom where it contacts the pan bottom, and the meat along the bottom of the turkey will braise in the drippings, rather than roast.  (The lower thigh meat may end up a little overdone and salty.)

Remove the turkey from the brine and pat it dry with paper towels.  (If you haven’t yet removed the neck and giblets, do so now.)  Do not rinse it.  Take a big square of aluminum foil and fold it in half diagonally into a triangle.  Press the triangle over the turkey breast, covering as much of the breast as possible.  (See the video for a great visual.)  Once you have shaped this “breastplate” which will later prevent the breast from overcooking, remove it and place it next to the oven so you can get to it later.

Rub the turkey all over with canola oil, getting into all the cracks.  DO NOT stuff the turkey.  That’s a terrible idea that MAY land everyone at your Thanksgiving table with food poisoning.  You can place aromatics inside the cavity…my favorites are rosemary and apple slices…but honestly they won’t contribute much flavor to your turkey.  They’ll just make the kitchen smell even better.

Truss the turkey with kitchen twine if you desire.  I don’t truss my turkeys.  Search YouTube for a trussing video if you want to truss your bird.  Trussing is primarily visual, it doesn’t affect flavor.

Place the turkey into the oven with the leg bones pointing toward the back wall of the oven.  Roast the turkey at 500F for 30 minutes.  Remove the turkey from the oven and lower the oven temperature to 350F.  Carefully place the foil breastplate onto the breast, and push the probe of your thermometer through the foil into the thickest part of the breast.  Try to avoid pushing it in so far that you contact bone, which will result in a false reading.  (Again, the video does a great job of showing you how.)  A remote probe thermometer is best, because the unit which displays the temperature stays outside the oven so you don’t have to open the oven door to see what the internal temp is.  But a regular dial meat thermometer will work.  (An LCD display will NOT work, as it is not meant to remain inside the oven.)  You will have to leave the thermometer inside the turkey until it comes out of the oven.

When the meat inside the breast reaches 161F, the turkey is done and SAFE to eat.  Any bacteria that might have existed inside the turkey have long since died.

Remove the turkey from the oven and gently tent with foil.  (Don’t wrap it tightly or you will steam the skin.)  Leave the thermometer in the meat.  Let the turkey rest a minimum of 15 minutes, preferably 30.  The temp will continue to rise for a few moments, then will gradually drop.  During this time, the juices that are boiling inside the turkey will cool and reabsorb into the meat.

Remove the thermometer, and any plastic thermometer that may have been in the turkey, and carve yourself the most juicy, tender, delicious turkey meat you’ll EVER taste!

***The juices from this turkey are VERY salty.  They cannot be used alone to make gravy, unless you like a REALLY salty gravy.  Use 1/4 cup of drippings to 3/4 cup of chicken stock to make an AMAZING gravy.***

38 responses to “Perfect Thanksgiving Turkey (brined)”

  1. Patty Rede Avatar
    Patty Rede

    HI Ben,

    How do you feel about deboning the turkey before you brine it? I like to do this for several reasons: I use the bones to make stock in advance, the turkey is much easier to carve and it cooks faster. In addition you can use a smaller container to brine the turkey.

    I’ve never used apple cider vinegar in my brine; I’m looking forward to trying your recipe this year.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Patty! I’ve actually never deboned a turkey before roasting. I’ve done it with chickens before. It’s a great idea as long as the folks you’re serving it to aren’t sticklers about having it look EXACTLY like a traditional turkey, standing up all pretty. Having the bones available to make stock for the actual meal is a huge plus, as is not needing a vast amount of brining space. You will LOVE the flavor the cider vinegar gives the turkey!

  2. Jen Franklin Avatar
    Jen Franklin

    re: above. I happen to have a thawed turkey that is ready to brine right now and am trying to decide how to do this so we don’t need to eat turkey for a very early breakfast. I also posted the wrong email address on the first question.

  3. Jen Franklin Avatar
    Jen Franklin

    I’m not sure if my first question was deleted? I am wondering if I can put an already brined turkey in the fridge overnight.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Jen, YES, you can refrigerate a brined turkey. Some of the brine will be squeezed out, but not enough to negatively impact the turkey.

  4. orcasval Avatar

    Hi Ben,
    Glad you are home safe and sound. I love the article and I will share it on my “Orcas Island Fire and Rescue Eats” page so others may read it. I have brined turkeys in the past and have used cider but never vinegar. Is there something special about the acid in the vinegar that enhances the process? I also did the “rapid roast” method but completely by accident. Last year I fixed Thanksgiving dinner at my house in the mountains which happens to have a second kitchen but didn’t have a stove. When I was planning out the oven use I really wanted a second oven. Then I remembered that I had pulled my Dad’s old stove out and it was parked in the shop to be hauled away. We brought that in, cleaned it up and I was so proud of myself that I had just doubled my cooking capacity. So I set about to cook the turkey with the standard time frame, aka- way before dinner time. About an hour or two in to it I went to check on the turkey because it was smelling awfully cooked. I had forgotten that the reason I had pulled out that old stove was because the thermostat was completely bonkers and it was like a blast furnace. My dad had just worked around that. I was horrified that the turkey was well cooked and hours before we were going to have dinner. I kept it warm but I was just disgusted to think we were going to eat cremated, dry turkey. Well when the time came I was stunned and relieved to see it was actually very moist and pretty darned good (I did brine that turkey). Well, plan to repeat a good turkey but hopefully by accident this time! I hope you have a fantastic Thanksgiving!!

  5. orcasval Avatar

    Ooops-not by accident! We’ll see…best laid plans and all…

  6. Jennifer Mills Avatar

    Oh the cider vinegar is absolutely AMAZING….. I tried it and now use it often!! Thanks to Ben!!

  7. Fernando Go Avatar

    What do you think about turduckens? I’m really careful with the internal temperature and all, never had a problem… And the turkey doesn’t get dry!… The drippings are awesome to make gravy… BTW, i don’t use the Paul Prudhomme recipe, i use the stuffing recipes of both my grandmothers (One is bread based, with celery, stock, and bacon, the other one is a mix of beef, pork, bacon, olives… kind of like a meatloaf) as we mexicans aren’t that big on cajun seasoning.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Fernando, I have to admit I’ve never cooked a turducken. I’ve never even tasted on. The idea is interesting, but there’s just SO MUCH chance for error…either something is underdone, something is overdone, or both. For the amateur, it’s probably a terrible idea. But if you are as careful as you are, and it’s delicious, GO FOR IT!!!

  8. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    Ben, I brine my bird in a five gallon bucket set in a cooler and packed with ice. I find this requires only about 2.5 to 3 gallons of brine. Will the full Gallon of cider need OK?

    1. Dave Avatar
      Dave

      It should say will it be OK.

    2. Ben Avatar

      Dave, I have brined in STRAIGHT apple cider vinegar before. One gallon will be totally fine.

  9. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    Does it cause harm to brine it longer than you state, like overnight?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Matt, the longer the turkey sits in the brine, the saltier it will be. If you leave it in longer than an hour per pound, you’ll start getting TOO salty.

      1. Matt Avatar
        Matt

        Wow…you took too long to reply 🙂
        Thanks so much, I can’t wait to try this out!

  10. Matt Avatar
    Matt

    Ok…I might have messed up a little bit. I started thawing my turkey a little late. It is 12 pounds and the maximum amount of time I would have to brine it is about 9 hours. The alternative is to finish thawing it and put it in the refrigerator for about 10 hours or so before I can brine it. It it OK to put the thawed turkey in the refrigerator until I can brine it?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Matt, YES you can keep your thawed turkey in the fridge until brining time. Or better yet, brine the bird right after thawing, THEN put in the fridge until an hour before baking time. The skin dries out and gets crispy.

  11. Channing Leigh Hockman Avatar

    Got all my materials together – so looking forward to this turkey! I’m hosting my husband and his family who are in from Australia – this will be their first Thanksgiving and probably their first legit turkey. It’s my first time hosting any sort of holiday meal/gathering, and you have made the process soooo much easier for me. Thank you times a million! I hope your holidays are spectacular.

  12. Tracey White Avatar

    Will it matter if it is in the brine longer than the hour per pound? I put mine in earlier today before I watched this. I will be much better prepare next year! LOL

    1. Ben Avatar

      Tracey, the longer you brine, the saltier your turkey will be. And the more the texture of the meat will become sort of gelatinous. An extra hour or two is fine, but much longer than that, and you turn the turkey into really salty ham, basically. There’s NOTHING wrong with removing the turkey from the brine and keeping it in the fridge for up to 24 hours before roasting. That actually helps the skin dry out so it gets nice and crispy…

  13. Elizabeth Anderson Avatar
    Elizabeth Anderson

    Happy Thanksgiving Ben!!!

    It’s not Thanksgiving up here in Canada however I am saving this to try for Christmas. I’ve never brined a turkey before and am looking forward to the results!

  14. Christene Perkins Avatar
    Christene Perkins

    This is my first attempt at brining a turkey. LOVED THE VIDEO. I didn’t have a cooler (accessible) but have a 22 lbs turkey that needed to brine. I found my XL (10 gallon) Ziploc bags (usually sold for sweater storage and such) makes a GREAT seal-able bag to brine in. I placed the new bag inside a regular plastic Rubbermaid tote and brined right inside, only needed 2 gallons of brine plus ice.
    I wanted to cook earlier than the 22 hours, do you think its OK to take the turkey out of the bag at 20 hours? Also I am cooking my turkey in a counter-top roaster, any suggestions for crisping the skin?
    THANKS

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Christene! Sorry I didn’t get back to you in time. It’s fine to remove the turkey from the brine earlier…the 1 hour per pound is generally the longer end of the spectrum. How did the turkey turn out from the countertop roaster? I baked my turkey at my sister’s place, and she had a countertop roaster, but my 22 pound bird would not fit in it, so we used the roaster to bake the dressing and pies, and the turkey went in the oven…

  15. O Avatar
    O

    “You can place aromatics inside the cavity…my favorites are rosemary and apple slices…but honestly they won’t contribute much flavor to your turkey.”
    Ben. If you don’t believe that the spices you use in no way affect the turkey you brine, or it makes no difference what you put inside….try this. Make your turkey with salt ans pepper ONLY. Then you can come back to this wonderful article and take ALL the sentences that say otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Other than that I might brine my turkey someday. I’m known for a VERY good turkey but I have never use the brine method before….

    Oh and one other thing. Some Bactria can’t be killed by heat…Leave it wrapped…dear.
    From one good cooker to another,,,lol

  16. MJ Avatar

    Hi Ben, I’m making a very small turkey this year, I’m thinking I might only need to add one gallon of water to the 1 gallon of apple cider vinegar, plus the salt/sugar portion for just the one gallon (It’s a 9.9 lber). Will that work? I likely won’t add extra salt either because I’m planning on putting it in a brining bag in the fridge instead of ice!

    1. Ben Avatar

      That should work just fine! You can brine in STRAIGHT cider vinegar if you want.

  17. Suz Avatar
    Suz

    Hi Ben! I’m hosting Thanksgiving and cooking a 16lb turkey for 12 for the first time in my life. I have insisted that i handle the Turkey without help from my better half (who’s the cook of the pair) to prove to myself I can not only do it, but that it’ll be the best turkey anyone has eaten. My mom, siblings, his mom and aunt as well as kids will be meeting for the first time so this is a big, big deal in other ways as well!

    I’m following your exact instructions so I wanted to a) thank you and b) let you know where I’m pointing my family if I fail. 😉 I’m SUPER excited about this so thanks again for your easy to follow process and making a long video that actually kept my attention!! Happy Thanksgiving to you.

  18. Suz Avatar
    Suz

    Hi Ben – I’m just following up on my previous comment to say that the turkey was DELICIOUS! While Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday I’ve never liked turkey. This year I was munching on leftover turkey later that night, it ws so juicy and tasty. I’ll be sharing your link with everyone I know. Thank you~

    1. Ben Avatar

      Suz, that’s wonderful! I’m so glad you enjoyed it and that turkey has a new life in your kitchen!

  19. jenevieves Avatar

    Hi Ben! I have never brined before but your post convinced me to try it this year. :)) (I adore all your blogs btw, so informative and give the “science” behind everything that usual bloggers have no clue about.) the brine all makes total sense. My question is that I am so used to putting a butter/spices sort of rub thing all over my turkey (and under the skin) before baking, and here you say just to rub with oil. Such a foreign concept to me! 😉 does the brine give sufficient flavor that you don’t need anything else? Thanks, and Happy Thanksgiving!!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Jenevieves, YES, the brine flavors the turkey intensely all the way to the center…something that a surface seasoning could never do!

  20. MJ Avatar

    Ben!! It’s me again lol – I am wondering, is there any way to tell if this turkey is DONE without the thermometer? My bf is flying in with the digital thermometer, but he likely won’t get it to me in time put it in the turkey. And I seem to be pretty terrible at where to put it, even after watching the video. One year it read as done and the interior/thick sections of the bird were definitely not done. :\ Any tips would be hugely appreciated!

    1. Ben Avatar

      MJ, there’s NO effective way to know if the turkey is done except by taking its internal temp. I’m sorry. There are all sorts of old fashioned ways…poke or cut it and if the juices run clear it’s done…cook it 15 minutes per pound…and NONE of those are accurate. I’d wait until he arrives to bake the turkey. (Brined turkeys roast quickly.) If you have trouble, face the bird toward you (legs pointed the other direction) and insert the thermometer into the fattest part of the breast, straight back in…(NOT toward the center breast bone).

  21. MJ Avatar

    I have a completely zany question.. I’m actually cooking two turkeys, I thought I could throw them into the same brining bag to save on apple cider vinegar, but if I’m brining hour per lb of turkey, should I still stick to 1 hour per lb? I imagine if I brined the combined turkeys (they are 12 each) for 24 hours that would be way too salty! The things that keep me up at night..

    1. Ben Avatar

      Ha ha…I’m probably too late, but only brine for 12 hours total, both birds at the same time!

  22. Jurga Avatar
    Jurga

    Hi from Lithuania! I tried brining a half of the chicken like this. It weighed 1.7 kg, so I left it in the brine for slightly more than 3 hours. Did not work though 🙁 The chicken was not brined through. The brine was quite salty, may be not salty enough? I tried to convert cups into ml here, and think I got the calculations right…

  23. angel Avatar
    angel

    Ben Loved you since the show and have cooked my turkey each year this way since, the problem I have tho each year is the dark meat still has blood by the bones each year ( I carve the breasts and wings off and throw the rest back in the oven) would really like to NOT do this tho, any suggestions? ( old post I know)

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