Ben Starr

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Fresh Pumpkin Pie (NO cans!)

So everyone’s got a recipe for pumpkin pie, and here’s the best one.  (An instructional video for this recipe is located at the bottom.)

Of course, the best one involves nothing from a can, which means WORK.  I’ll throw you some shortcuts the deeper we get into the recipe, but if you want to make pumpkin pie the way my grandmothers and great grandmothers made it, this is how it’s done.

CRUST

You’ve got two choices here, oil crust and butter pastry.  Oil crust is fast and healthy.  It’s also pretty much foolproof.  It’s flaky and good.  Butter pastry is more traditional, it’s more fattening, it tastes better on your tongue because of the butter, but it’s not quite as flaky as oil crust.  It takes longer and has a higher risk for failure.  You decide which one to use.

Mom’s Oil Crust

This is the recipe my mother has used for the past decade, and it’s brilliant.

1 1/3 cups unbleached all-purpose flour
3/4 teaspoon salt
2 Tablespoons sugar

Mix these together in a bowl with your fingers.  Then make a well in the center and add:

1/3 cup canola oil (or light-flavored olive oil)
3 generous Tablespoons of buttermilk or milk (coconut milk for vegans)

Stir the ingredients around with a fork until all the dry ingredients are wet.  If you still have flour in the bottom of the bowl, add a splash more milk and stir another few strokes.

Then bring the dough together with your fingers, compress it into a ball, and set it on top of a piece of wax paper or parchment on your countertop.  (Hint:  If you’ll wipe the countertop with a damp rag first, the wax paper won’t slide around while you work with it.)

Push the dough ball down into a disk with your palm, then place another piece of wax paper on top of the dough.  With a rolling pin, roll the dough out to about 2 inches wider than your deepest pie plate.

Remove the top layer of wax paper and set the pie plate upside down onto the dough.  Then slide your hand under the bottom layer of wax paper and flip the pie plate and dough over.  Gently set the crust down into the pie plate and remove the wax paper.

Flute the edges of the crust with your fingers.  First tuck under any excess crust to form an even lip all around the pie plate.  Then push your index finger of your left hand between the index finger and thumb of your right hand to form flutes, as you see here.

Then put the crust in the fridge until it’s time to bake.

Traditional Butter Pastry

1 ½ cups unbleached flour
2 Tablespoons sugar
¾ teaspoon salt

Stir these around in a very large bowl until well mixed. Then add:

1 stick plus 2 Tablespoons of butter

You’ll speed up your process by slicing the butter into “pats” before adding it to the flour.  Using a pastry blender or your fingers, work the butter into the flour until the whole thing resembles course crumbs.

Then fill a bowl with ice and water, stir it around so the water is really cold, and add:

4-6 Tablespoons ice water

Start with 4 Tablespoons and stir everything around with a fork. You’re wanting the crumbs to come together into a dough that’s not too dry, nor too sticky. Add another Tablespoon if the dough isn’t moist enough. Maybe you’ll need to add two, depending on the outside humidity. Perhaps even a little more. Once the dough holds together, it’s ready.

If you add too much water and the dough is sticky, it’s not ruined. Just use some flour to dust your hands and the top and sides of the dough in the next step.

You can also make this crust entirely in your food processor. Just process the butter into the flour, then blend in short pulses as you add the water until the dough is ready. I’ve found my crusts end up tougher when I make them with the food processor.

In the bowl, do a very light kneading by flouring your hands and turning and pressing the dough about six times, just to help bring it together. Then remove the dough, form it into a ball quickly in your hands, and place it on a piece of plastic wrap or wax paper. Wrap the dough up and put it in the fridge to rest for 30 minutes, or into the freezer if it’s a hot day.

Don’t skip the chilling step. It’s really important for making sure you have a tender final crust. You want all the butter particles to stay solid until the very moment the pie begins to bake.

After the dough is chilled and rested, remove it from the fridge.

Roll it out and plate it using the method in the recipe above. If you need to bake this crust before adding filling, use the same baking method listed in the recipe above for Mom’s oil crust.

PUMPKIN PUREE

This is how to make pumpkin puree from scratch, instead of using canned pumpkin.  It’s not really too hard.

Take a pumpkin, preferably the small “sugar pumpkin” or “pie pumpkin” variety, but any one will do, and cut it in half.  If you want to save the seeds, scoop out the seeds and stringy bits.  But you can save time by leaving them in the pumpkin.  It will be easier to scoop them out after the pumpkin is cooked.

There are two options for cooking: roasting/baking or microwaving.

To bake, place the pumpkin, cut side down, in a rimmed baking pan.  Fill the pan with about 1/2 cup of water.  Then bake in a 350F oven until the pumpkin is soft when you press on it with a wooden spoon.  This can take anywhere from 30 minutes for a small sugar pumpkin to 90 minutes or longer for a big pumpkin.
Remove the pumpkin from the oven and let it cool.

For the microwave, place the pumpkin, cut side down, on a plate and microwave on high for 20 minutes or longer until the pumpkin is soft.  You may have to do this a half at a time, depending on the size of both the pumpkin and your microwave.  The pumpkin will release a LOT of water, which may cause steam to condense behind the timer display.  It will eventually evaporate…no worries.  But you may end up with pumpkin juice all inside your  microwave and have to clean it.  I DO use this method when I’m in a hurry.  Let the pumpkin fully cool.

If you left the seeds and strings inside, scrape them out and discard them.  Then scrape out the flesh with a spoon, put it in your blender or food processor, and process until it’s smooth.

Your puree will probably be watery.  To eliminate excess water, pour the puree onto a clean bath towel, fold the rest of the towel over the puree, and pat it down gently and let it sit for 5 minutes.  The extra water will be drawn into the towel.  Instead of trying to scrape the pumpkin off the towel, just use the towel to fold the puree over on top of itself a few times, then dump it into a big bowl.  (See the instructional video for an actual demonstration.)

Simple as that!

PIE FILLING

Preheat oven to 425F.

2 cups pumpkin puree
1 1/2 cups heavy cream (or, for a unique flavor, use buttermilk! for vegans, coconut milk)
1/2 cup firmly packed brown sugar
2 large eggs
1 egg yolk
1/3 cup white sugar
1/2 teaspoon salt
2 teaspoons cinnamon
1 Tablespoon ground ginger
1 Tablespoon cardamom (trust me on this one, people)
1/2 teaspoon nutmeg (freshly grated is best)
1/2 teaspoon each cloves and allspice

Whisk all this together until smooth.

Pour the filling into an unbaked crust and bake on the center rack of a 425F oven for 15 minutes.  Then, without opening the oven door, lower the heat to 350 and continue baking for 40 minutes.

If the crust begins to brown too much, you can open the oven and place crust protectors over the crust.  If you don’t have these (I don’t) then simply cut a square of foil a little larger than the pie plate, and cut out a large circle in the center.  This hole lets the heat get through to the filling to bake it, but keeps the crust from getting too brown.

After 40 minutes, test the pie by sticking a knife into the center.  If the knife comes out clean, or with a few particles on it, the pie is done.  If the knife comes out with wet streaks on it, it needs an additional 8-10 minutes before you test again.

Let the pie cool completely on a cooling rack before serving.  I think this pie tastes better after sitting overnight in the fridge, but let it warm to room temperature before serving.

Here’s an instructional video:

32 responses to “Fresh Pumpkin Pie (NO cans!)”

  1. Philly Avatar
    Philly

    i LOVE this pie. i use fairy tale squash, aka columbian squash instead of the little pie pumpkins. i can find it much cheaper at mexican grocers. it also has one of the better flesh/seed cavity ratios ive found in the hard squash world. i also step up the nutmeg a bit. i like to use a combo of the pre ground and fresh ground. i think they both add a little something. the cardamom really sets it off.

    1. Ben Avatar

      So glad you’re enjoying the recipe! I brew beer with the “fairy tale” squashes, they have delicious flesh.

  2. Antoinette Avatar
    Antoinette

    Hi Ben! I’m just getting my pumpkin in the oven at 176C (350F)…
    I would like to know, once the pumpkin is baked how long does it last if I don’t use it all up? and where do I keep the puree?
    thanks

  3. Johann Avatar
    Johann

    I just tried it! It looks delicious. I’ll tell you how it was!

  4. Kitty Avatar
    Kitty

    I am in the process of making you pie at the moment. I would like to take the time to thank you for putting a real “from scratch” recipe online. I went to many different websites that said it was made from scratch and then they pull out a can of pumpkin! “CANNED PUMPKIN!” I screamed over and over! and then finally I came upon yours. Thank you Thank You Thank You.
    Now that the seeds are out of the oven the pumpkin is going in!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Thanks so much, Kitty! I’m so glad you like the recipe. Our great grandmothers got almost nothing out of a can. (Unless they canned it themselves!) It’s a shame that so many recipes take that shortcut automatically.

  5. MJ Avatar
    MJ

    Hey Ben, do you think we can sub coconut oil for the canola? I’m looking at refined coconut oil since it supposedly has less coconutty flavor..

    1. Ben Avatar

      MJ, my mom now uses coconut oil almost exclusively for this recipe…so YES, you can. Don’t even worry about refined oil…even the clotty virgin stuff makes an incredible crust. The flavor of coconut is never very pronounced in the final crust, and even if it did, mild coconut overtones would complement MOST flavors of pie out there anyway. (Pumpkin and coconut are a brilliant pairing, in both sweet and savory dishes.)

  6. Rebecca Avatar

    Hi Ben! i just used the oil crust recipe for a pie and i absolutely ADORE it! you’re totally right – its light, flaky, and so easy to make! 🙂

    1. Ben Avatar

      Rebecca, I’m SO glad you like the oil crust! I’ll tell my mom. I’ve fed this crust to pastry chefs and THEN told them it was an oil crust, and they didn’t believe me. I just made 4 crusts this evening, as a matter of fact!

  7. Christopher Watson Avatar
    Christopher Watson

    Do you use whole cardamom and grind it yourself or do you use pre-ground cardamom?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Christopher, I use pre-ground cardamom most of the time for this recipe. I save my whole-pod cardamom for special occasions and for instances where I don’t cook it very long, like for coffee, or for steeping in milk or ice cream base, or for brewing beer. These methods preserve all the volatile oils that can cook off with lengthy baking. For most baking recipes, the pre-ground cardamom is just fine.

  8. jocelyn Avatar
    jocelyn

    Your oil crust is genius! I tried it, and I can’t believe not everyone makes it. It can totally compete with the butter-shortening crust. Thank you!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Thanks SO MUCH, Jocelyn! I’m so glad you like it. Yeah…once you realize how easy it is to make, you’ll think REALLY hard before you go to the trouble of a butter crust again. ESPECIALLY when you look at the calories and fat content!!!

  9. Char James-Tanny Avatar
    Char James-Tanny

    My son *loves* pumpkin pie…and he’s currently trying to lose weight, which means limited fats and no refined sugar.

    Can I use wheat pastry flour for the (oil-based) crust? And can I substitute molasses or agave or something else for the sugar?

    Thanks!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Char! Sorry to get back to you so late, I’ve been swamped. YES you can use whole wheat pastry flour in the crust…this is what my Mom does. And YES, you can substitute honey, agave, or molasses for the sugar. Each of these will change the flavor and the texture, but it will still be delicious. The rule of thumb for honey or molasses is to use half the volume that it calls for in sugar. So if it calls for a cup of sugar, use half a cup of honey. Not sure on agave, I think it’s milder in sweetness, so you may need the full amount. A bit of experimentation is in order! Let us know how it turns(ed) out!

      1. Char James-Tanny Avatar
        Char James-Tanny

        Thanks, Ben 🙂 I did use whole wheat flour…it wasn’t great, but it wasn’t bad. I think I just might need more practice. (The crust wasn’t flaky; it had a texture more like a graham cracker crust.)

        I did much better on the filling 🙂 I used coconut cream for the heavy cream, and I used a combination of agave and molasses for the sweetness. (I don’t remember how much I used…I just went slow and tasted it (a lot!) so that it wasn’t overly sweet/overly molassy/overly anything. And I went a little heavier on some of the spices.

        Oh, and my son loved it 🙂 (Well, not so much on the crust, but he loved the filling.)

        Thanks again for providing the impetus I needed!

        1. Ben Avatar

          That’s great news, Char! Yes, whole wheat flour will make a mealy crust. You can get whole wheat pastry flour that is ground much more finely, and it will result in a better texture for the crust.

  10. Dave Avatar
    Dave

    I tried to make the oil crust twice. The first try it seemed pretty wet, and even wiping the counter the parchment slid around and wrinkled up in the crust. I tried to put it in the pan and it ripped allover. Threw it in the trash and tried again. Used a bit less oil and two tablespoons of buttermilk. Worked in more milk a bit at a time till it seemed good. Rolling it out it tore when I tried to peel off the top sheet of parchment. Threw it in the trash and bought a premade crust. Any idea what went wrong with a nearly fool proof crust?

    Another question, does this pie always come out fairly dark? I’m thinking it is probably just from the brown sugar I used. Only had dark brown sugar, and what I had makes the dominoes dark brown almost look like white sugar.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Dave! I’m not sure what’s happening with your crust. I get people all the time saying it’s the easiest crust they’ve tried. You’re not using cake flour, are you? It DOES sound like it’s too moist overall. It shouldn’t be like biscuit dough. The crumbs should just be able to hold together when you press them together. I’ve even taught this crust in classes to people who’ve never made a crust in their lives and people rarely have problems. The crust, like any crust, IS delicate and may tear as you are transferring it. (Just pinch it and paste it back together.) But if it’s tearing when you remove the top sheet, it’s too wet. Check your measuring cups and spoons, they may be inaccurate?!

  11. Kitty Avatar

    Last year I made a comment about how I was so grateful you use real pumpkin. This year I would like to say it again. Everybody loves my pie! The only problem is my sister has gone vegan (which I don’t mind at all) but I used the coconut milk instead. EWW. It was so gross.
    I didn’t have any cream to make a new batch but I did have Egg Nog. This was amazing! I used 1 cup instead of 1 and 1/2 and it was marvelous! Also I love the butter crust! It doesn’t even take any work I just throw all the ingredients into my food processor! Done in a Jiffy.
    Thank you again for your wonderful recipes.

    1. Ben Avatar

      Hi, Kitty! Thanks so much for your comment. Interesting use of Egg Nog! I think you’ve invented something new…Egg Nog Pumpkin Pie! Yummy…

  12. Andrea Avatar

    Ben, any good ideas on how to use cloves that aren’t ground? Unfortunately, I can’t find ground cloves down here!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Andrea, just grind them in a molcajete or mortar and pestle! If you don’t have one, get one, they’re very cheap down there. It’s great to grind whole spices, you get much more flavor that way!

  13. philly Avatar
    philly

    Tis the season! Ben! i’ve found that the little pumpkins marketed as “pie pumpkins” don’t have all of the excess water. i’ve had no problems with using the puree as is straight from the blender! major time and mess saver!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Great info, Philly, thanks!!

  14. Sandra Toledano Avatar

    hi! i was wondering, about how many grams of pumpkin go into a cup? can you use any type of pumpkin?
    thanks!

    1. Ben Avatar

      Sandra, pumpkin weighs approximately 225 grams per “cup.” Any type of hard winter squash or pumpkin can be used.

  15. Sandra Toledano Avatar

    another quick question. the written recipe calls for another 1/3 cup of white sugar but you don’t metion it in your video at all….typo or should i add both the white and brown sugars?

    1. Ben Avatar

      Sandra, follow the written recipe! My written recipes are always up to date based on my current version. I’ve probably tweaked it since the video.

  16. Kitty Avatar
    Kitty

    It is almost that time of year again. Since 2012 I have been making your pie recipe multiple times a year. With only slight differences I have not varied far from your original recipe. Thank you again for making such a wonderful recipe.

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